Radiometric Dating

Different Time-Scales
Radiometric Dating
Carbon-14 Dating
Other forms of Radiometric Dating


Different Time-Scales

 Different world-views have different time-scales as regards the history of the Earth and the universe.  Buddhist, Jain and Hindu cosmologies describe the universe as a never-ending series of cycles each lasting millions or billions of years.  The Greeks had the "great year" of 24,500 years, based on the precession of the equinoxes.  The time-scale of the fundamentalist or Creationist Judeo-Christian is based on a word-for-word reading of the first book of the Bible, and assumes a total age of the earth and the cosmos of a mere 5 or 6,000 (some Creationists allow 10,000) years.  Astronomy and Geology, working on scientific data built up over the last two centuries or so, assumes the Earth to be very ancient, more in keeping with the eastern than the western (Graeco-Judeo-Christian) perspectives.  However, whereas the Eastern perspective is (like the Greek) cyclic, the Western scientific understanding is strictly linear and evolutionary.


Radiometric Dating

During the link to palaeos com 19th century, and even well into the twentieth, geological chronology was very crude.   Dates were estimated according to the supposed rate of deposition of rocks, and figures of several  hundred million years were bandied out; usually arrived at through inspired guesswork rather than anything else.

With the discovery of radiometric dating, it became possible for the first time to attempt precise figures.  Radiometric dating works on the principle that certain atoms and isotopes are unstable.  These unstable atoms tend to "decay" into stable ones; they do this by emmitting a particle or  particles.  This emission is what is known as radioactivity.

The time it takes for half of a given amount of a radioactive element to decay into a stable one is  what is known as the "half-life".  By matching the proportion of original unstable isotope to stable decay product, and knowing the half-life of that element, one can thus deduce the age of the rock , as shown in the follwoing diagram.  Even in the case of very long half-lives, modern scientific instruments are now accurate enough to give very fine readings.

radiometric dating


note: the rest of this page incorporates material from posts to the Dinosaur mailing list
circa Dec 1998.  Thank you to Brandon Haist, Allan Edels, Dann Pigdon, and Gautam Majumdar

Carbon-14 Dating

We usually hear of Carbon 14 dating, which is very important in archaeology.  The Christian Creationists have criticised it on the grounds that it is innacurate.  But these innacuracies are the result of variation in the level of Carbon 14 in the atmosphere, and when this is worked out (through calibration with tree rings of the bristlecone pine, the oldest living organism) precise dates can be had.

The radioactive isotope Carbon 14 has a half-life of 5,730 years.  Ihis has made it useful for measuring prehistory and events occurrring within the past 35 to 50 thousand years.

However, although 5730 years is the correct half-life, it is not the one used for most C-14 dating, simply because the original half-life used to determine dates back in the 1950s was wrong, and to be consistent we still tend to use the wrong value (a bit like the direction of current flow in electronics, which is the opposite of that which the electrons take, but was the original and incorrect assumption).

The practical range for dating is in the order of a few hundred to about 40,000 years BP. Any further back than that and your standard deviations go way up. Also, C-14 years do not correlate with actual calendar years, since the amount of C-14 isotopes in the atmosphere has fluctuated in the past, and the dating method assumes it was constant. Tree ring data (dendrochronology) can be used to even out this inconsistency, however the oldest trees used for calibration are in the order to about 6,000 years old, so any further back than that and you can't correct your dates (although there are reportedly some preserved huon pines in Tasmania that could take this right back to 30,000 years or so, if anyone wants to spend half their life time counting tree rings). Even if dates are corrected with tree ring data they are still not considered calander years, but rather radiocarbon years. So a 40,000 year C-14 date and a 60,000 year thermoluminescense date could easily come from the same strata, right next to each other, and possibly reflect a date of anything between 30,000 and 70,000 calender years depending on the standard deviations of your dates.  Some Thermoluminescense dates that are in the order of 50,000 years +/- 25,000 years, which with a two standard deviation limit puts it anywhere between yesterday and 100,000 years ago.

Of course C-14 would never be of any use for dating dinosaur bearing deposits, unless you want everything to date to around 40,000 years!

 Radio-Carbon dating can be used for dates up to ~80,000 years ago.  However, the error range increases drastically once you pass 50,000 years.  Also, it is of little use in anything more recent than 5,000 years ago.  (The item being tested must be organic based, and must be dead - tests on live mollusks showed an age of 2000 years).

   If a fossil is completely replaced (permineralized), then it would be useless in a similar test - because it no longer is organic.  Fortunately, we are able to date older fossils using the radiometric breakdown of other elements (Potassium-Argon dating, Argon-Argon dating, and Rubidium dating [I'm writing this without any refs - so this last one might be wrong]). Usually the radioactive 'clocks' for these elements are started when the elements are deposited by a volcanic eruption (usually in the form of ash).  These elements have much longer half-lives than Carbon, and in some cases can be cross-referenced if more than one of these elements is present in avolcanic tuft.  There are other methods for dating fossils, such as themolumenescence.


Other forms of Radiometric Dating

Carbon 14's half-life is not nearly long enough to measure dates in the geological past.  For that elements with a half life of many millions of years are required.  here are the half-lives of some otehr radioactive elements:

These are said to be used in dating techniques of gas formation light emission (called thermoluminescence).   Besides thermoluminescence there is also the measurement of the ratio of the radioactive material to its decay elements.  For example, Uranium (U-235 or U-238) runs into the Thorium series then breakdowns into Radium and Radon, and finally, into Lead (the stable isotope).

Volcanic tuft containing U-235 also contians (stable) Lead associated directly with it.  By comparing thr proportion of the two, one can work out how old the deposit is.  If the sample is 75% U-235 and 15% Lead (and 10% other), then the sample is approximately 300 mya.  About half of the half of the original amount (1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4) of U-235 has decayed into other materials - meaning that only half of its half life has passed - therefore: ~300 mya.

Other forms of dating are:

The most common geological methods of dating are the decay of Uranium into Lead, a natural process that occurs in Uranium ore, and the Potassium-Argon method, useful with volcanic deposits.

One would such long-term dating (which is not dependent on atmospheric variations) to be totally  consistent, within the limits of accuracy of the measuring instruments of course.  This unfortunately is not the case.  Variation is sometimes enough to make small-scale dating difficult, although never enough to make untenable the overall time-scale.  Nigel Calder explains that in recent studies  key dates differ by about 2 per cent [Timescale, p.233], although it sometimes seems that 5 or even 10 % may be likely.  It may well be that through the formation of the rock itself, for example under conditions of varying heat and pressure, the condition of the Uranium is effected enough to throw off the  dates a little.  Yet even if the geological time-scale is not totally accurate, it is at least adequate to give us a  fairly good chronology.


Web links Links and References printed book

web pagegraphicsIsochron Dating - by Chris Stassen - a very useful but quite technical coverage of the whole topic of radiometric dating - from the Talks Origin archive.  see also by the same author:

ascii formatFAQsIsochron Dating

web pagegraphics Radiometric Dating - A Christian Perspective - Dr. Roger C. Wiens - a very good overview.  Not all Christians are Young Earth creationists!

printed book Science-based dating in archaeology, by Aitken M J, Longman, London 1990, ISBN 0-582-49309-9 (paperback) - describes all the dating methods available - well beyond the time period associated with archaeology.

printed book The Handy Science Answer Book, compiled by the Science and Technology Department of the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh

printed book Nigel Calder - Timescale - an Atlas of the 4th dimension 1983, Hogarth Press, London


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